English part of site is really poor with content, so I am looking for person, who can lead English community.
I like PBwiki, I'm not in need of a WYSIWYG editor (they've recently added one to all 'levels' of their service) but I do need things that their more minimal options don't offer, such as leveled password control of the wiki (so I decide who can edit it, since I use it for collaborative works) and usage stats. I do wish that they got the PDF save function to work, but at least on their software I can just save the HTML/XML pages from my browsers to have a backup locally for when I'm not onliine (and can do an ok job printing from it). I just can't spend hundreds of dollars on the service.
They also do a lot of tinkering with their site software, which randomly breaks things, or changes how things look.
Wetpaint.com is relatively new (June 2006 startup) and uses a purely WYSIWYG style editor. There is no cost for it, as they are a 'paid by advertising and Angel Money' startup, it looks a bit snazzier and has a few built in features I like (such as built in indexing of the pages of the wiki, something you only get as a third party support option on pbwiki).
The problems I have with wetpaint is you can't back up your data. You can't save what you see in the browser to your hard drive, you can't access the material offline at all. I can print stuff from it to hardcopy, but the printouts look clunky with a 'editing blurb' at the top of each page section you print which makes it look like a partial screen capture instead of a regular print. Additionally I can't adjust the font size when printing, which means that everything gets printed in 12 point text, when for print copy a 10 point font is more efficient (but you need 12 point to see things effectively on screen if you're going to read heavily directly from the site).
There is no PDF copy version or any other copy version. Basically all I can do is Hardcopy or be online to use the wiki, which isn't useful when you are designing something for use half the time without access to the internet. If, like my other wiki project, this turns into some 500 pages of material, carrying around a binder of single sided pages that thick is like carrying around a second notebook computer and nowhere near as useful.
They use propriatory software so there is no offline version, nor do they make a standalone software package you can purchase for offline use.
This leaves me frustrated all around. I really need offline access (no wi-fi in building basemenets or public wi-fi available in 95% of the city where I live in public locations, and no 'one wireless' pay service available in the area). I don't need to write to the wiki offline, but I do need to access the data.
So anyone have suggestions on alternatives to either of these wiki services? (The few standalone only wiki software packages I've seen are ineffective, clumbsy or badly designed... doing things like storing all the data in a single file).
So, anyone here familiar with wetpaint.com as a wiki host? Pros, Cons, problems, feedback?
Ok, so Zamani the system was designed inside a Wiki, for ease of design info flow and to make it accessible easily to players. 90% of my previous game design efforts have been aimed towards producing written linear documents (PDFs or Printouts). I still gave a partial mechanics handout at the actual first game session, but the Wiki was the main info source for updates, changes etc.
I'm working on a new project in the background, which I've started as a Wiki, but I am unsure whether this is really the way to go.
I've seen a lot of folks use the wiki approach, usually with a pre-game lexicon stage that the players contribute into. I used it less for that, instead having it act as a 'rules comment system' as well as fast update method.
I have seen very few game-via-wiki projects with players on the net that have actually worked out in the long term. The players seem to get distracted, overwhelmed or abandon the wiki end of things along the way, and in about half the cases this kills the games involved (and in the other the lexicon ends and the tabletop takes over with updates ending or becoming scarce).
So, for those of you who have used Wiki/Lexicon approaches to gaming, what has been your overall experiences? Any Complete Successes? Partial Successes? How long have the games run involved from start to finish of player involvement?
Would you recommend this format to others? Did players find it helpful, distracting, annoying or ignorable? Did it enhance the gaming experience?
My wiki (http://zamani.pbwikil.com) is used for my gaming group, though a few friends and acquainteces also are involved supposedly in the project. But folks seem to be avoiding changing it, afraid they 'might break something'.
Anyone else see this problem with thier wikis?